——安息日可在牲口面前切南瓜,也可在狗面前切死牲的肉。这岂不是说那南瓜与死牲的肉相类么——死牲的肉既是软的,这里所说的南瓜也是软的。可见人是可以为食物费力的;这就把 拉夫犹大 的意思彻底驳倒了。革玛拉 答说,拉夫犹大 本可这样回你:不是的,那密释纳所说的是与南瓜相类的死牲之肉——南瓜既是硬的,那死牲的肉也是硬的,切碎它才成为可吃的。革玛拉 问:怎能找出硬得别的牲口吃不动的死牲之肉呢?革玛拉 答:那密释纳所说的是象肉。再不然,也可讲作寻常牲口的肉摆在小狗面前——小狗单吃得下切碎的肉。
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——安息日可在牲口面前切南瓜,也可在狗面前切死牲的肉。
pumpkins before an animal and an animal carcass before dogs.
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这岂不是说那南瓜与死牲的肉相类么?
Is this not referring to pumpkins that are similar to an animal carcass?
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死牲的肉既是软的,这里所说的南瓜也是软的。
Just as an animal carcass is soft, so too, the pumpkins referred to here are soft.
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可见人是可以为食物费力的;这就把 拉夫犹大 的意思彻底驳倒了。
Apparently, one may exert himself with food, and this is a conclusive refutation of the opinion of Rav Yehuda.
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革玛拉 答说,拉夫犹大 本可这样回你:不是的,那密释纳所说的是与南瓜相类的死牲之肉。
The Gemara answers that Rav Yehuda could have said to you: No, the mishna is referring to an animal carcass that is similar to pumpkins.
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南瓜既是硬的,那死牲的肉也是硬的,切碎它才成为可吃的。
Just as the reference is to pumpkins that are hard, so too, the reference is to an animal carcass that is hard, and chopping it renders it edible.
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革玛拉 问:怎能找出硬得别的牲口吃不动的死牲之肉呢?
The Gemara asks: And how is it possible to find an animal carcass that is so hard that another animal cannot eat it?
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革玛拉 答:那密释纳所说的是象肉。
The Gemara answers: The mishna is referring to elephant flesh.
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再不然,也可讲作寻常牲口的肉摆在小狗面前——小狗单吃得下切碎的肉。
Alternatively, it can be explained that the mishna is referring to more common animal meat placed before puppies that can eat only chopped meat.