两件岂可相比——那里套子是所许之物的底座,这里皮却是所禁之物(祭肉,天黑前不可挪)的底座。倒不如说他们所说的是:套子里纵有钱也可连卷一同救,皮何以不可连肉一同挪呢?又诘:那里套子是所禁与所许两样之物的底座,这里却全是所禁之物的底座。倒不如说:从外头取一个装着钱的套子进来救托拉卷尚且可以,皮何以不可连肉一同挪呢?
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革玛拉 问:这两件岂是可比的么?
The Gemara asks: Are they comparable?
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那里论托拉卷,那套子是所许之物、就是安息日可挪的卷子的底座;这里论逾越节羊羔的皮,那皮却是所禁之物、就是祭肉的底座——那肉要到天黑才可吃,所以天黑以先不可挪。
There, with regard to the Torah scroll, the casing is a base for a permitted object, i.e., the scroll itself, which may be moved on Shabbat; whereas here, with regard to the hide of the Paschal lamb, the skin is a base for a prohibited object, i.e., the flesh of the sacrifice, which may not be moved until nightfall because it may not be eaten until night.
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倒不如说:他们对他所说的是这话——托拉卷的套子里纵有钱,也可连卷子一同救出来,那么皮何以不可连肉一同挪呢?
Rather, this is what they said to him: If one may save the casing of the Torah scroll along with the scroll, even if there is money inside it, why then may one not move the hide together with the flesh?
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革玛拉 问:这两件岂是可比的么?
The Gemara asks: Are they comparable?
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那里论托拉卷,那套子成了所禁与所许两样之物的底座;这里论那皮,它却全是所禁之物的底座。
There, with regard to the Torah scroll, the casing becomes a base for a prohibited object and a permitted object; whereas here, with regard to the hide, it is entirely a base for a prohibited object.
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倒不如说:他们对他所说的是这话——人尚且可以从外头取一个里头装着钱的套子进来,好把托拉卷装在里头救出去,那么皮何以不可连肉一同挪呢?
Rather, this is what they said to him: If one may bring a casing that has money inside it from outside in order to save a Torah scroll in it, why may one not move the hide together with the flesh?